Monday, June 14, 2010

Whitty's Ridge Development

I noticed on the town website that there is a public information session planned for Thursday night 7:00 at the Kinsmen Centre.  I have heard several stories about what is supposed to be going on up there, everything from 30 houses to 200 houses.  I am not sure what happens at these sessions but if you think this might effect you in some way it may be worth while going to check it out.


  1. AnonymousJune 17, 2010

    There is so much land up that way that it should get fully serviced and developed properly.

    Bob Codner says he wants sidewalks, well why doesn't he force developers to put them in when they are developing subdivisions so that the town doesn't have to pay for them later? The same goes for water and sewer. The council wants to service more of the town but instead of having developers put in water and sewer they let them put in large unserviced developments and the town goes back years later puts in water and sewer and then there's housing being squeezed in everywhere.

    Council should look at coming up with a good municipal plan that would outline certain areas where there would be more dense developments, similar to in St. John's, and an area where the lots have to be larger. Not everyone wants a half acre lot.

  2. I see where you are coming from but I think it is unrealistic to expect developers to pay for town infrastructure. I know that every development is different but I am pretty sure that is the water and sewer is available the developer must run it but I am not sure about that.

    That being said Whitty's Ridge is well outside of the current serviced area. We only have one water supply and before any large scale developments are added to it we need to add some capacity which means another pond being used for water.

    As for the sewer, I think it would be ridiculous to add more houses to that before we get some kind of sewer treatment plant up and running. The town is in the process of coming up with more proposals for that right now as the province has changed the requirements for applying for funding.

    Basically what you are proposing would immediately halt development in Torbay for several year and I don't think that is a good idea.

    As for lot size, if the lot is serviced it can be smaller, 50x100 I think and where it is not serviced 100x200 or 1/2 acre. Now when it is a new development that is not on an existing road I am pretty sure the lot has to be at least 3/4 of an acre. I am certainly against having all smaller lots and dense developments, that is why I live in Torbay and not St John's.

    When I lived in Ottawa I have a lot that was 39 feet wide and about 80 feet deep. My house was 30 feet wide and 40 feet deep. That doesn't leave much room for anything else. I have a 1/2 acre lot on Bauline Line now and I wouldn't want anything smaller, especially with kids.

    Thanks for your comment.

  3. AnonymousJune 17, 2010

    CBS makes developers put in sidewalks for new subdivisions so Torbay should do the samw.

    As for water the town has decided on 1 or 2 ponds, which I believe are in Flatrock, that they want to use for water. The question is why they haven't started using them though?

    As for lot sizes it's a tough issue. There are people who moce to Torbay to have their big lots but I as well as many others don't want all that upkeep but shouldn't have to move to St. John's. If someone were to be hooked to water but not to sewer the lot can be a good bit smaller then if it needed both correct?

  4. Sidewalks would be nice but I would be happy if we just had some paved shoulders to use for walking or biking.

    As for water supply ponds, the ponds designated as watershed areas for possible future water supply in Torbay are South Pond and Great Pond, both of them are in Torbay. I see no reason why Torbay would need to go to Flatrock to get a pond for water supply when we have plenty.

    I don't think a developer would get very much of a varience to have water only. The sewer is the aspect that requires the larger lot because you need to have a minimum size for the septic field. You would still need a minimum of a half acre to do something like that. In fact I believe that the Motion Drive Extension subdivision was done like that, water but no sewer and they may have been 3/4 acre...I am not sure.

    Those things have to be worked out with each developer based on different circumstances, at least that is how I understand it from reading the municipal plan.


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